You Are My PeopleBy: Josh
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Also in a discussion with another charming fellow, this is after I watched SLC Punk mind you, the topic was broached between the weight of scientific reason and religious reason. If you've seen SLC Punk, then you'll remember the chap who tried to disprove the existence of Satan by trying to summon him up at a party. Initially I was thinking this fellow is a cocky bastard, who thinks he can do this with one little drunken escapade involving a fiery pentagram and some chanting (ASTRO JETSON PEOPLE. 'nuff said.). I mean, how does he know that the book he was using was meant to raise the Devil anyway? That it wasn't published by people bent on destroying religion by writing books that they claimed could raise the Devil so when people used them, and nothing happened, they wouldn't believe in Satan. Unless I'm just over-analyzing a moot point in the plot of something that really has nothing to do with what I'm' talking about here. I guess that's for you to decide. I'm rambling again, surprise, surprise.
So I said something to the effect that science is just as full of shit as religion is, and that they're just constantly used against one another to discredit each other's validity collective minds of the masses.
This was shot down by the claim that religion's views are based on a book, and science's views are based on fact and physical proof.
I then said that science has been proven just as wrong as religion and just as many times to boot, citing examples including but not exclusive to when everyone believed that the Atom was the smallest piece of matter in the world, until they split it open. And how some time in the 70's it was a widely held belief in the SCIENTIFIC world that we were on the verge of another ice age and that we should dump ash on the polar ice caps to melt the water so we didn't all freeze. Anyone worth their salt in the ecological world will tell you that the ice caps are melting on their own and Global warming, greenhouse effect, and blah blah blah, the point is they were wrong again. The proof they claim is just their own fat-headed stubbornness that they're never wrong, and nothing could prove them wrong. But really they know dick all. Are flying by the seats of their pants and making outrages claims, hoping we all don't die as a result of their ignorance.
Then there were the toss-ups, including Dinosaur and Man co-existing. Of course the church has to claim they co-existed right, and they do, but they have alleged scientific proof of fossils, and excerpts from the Bible demonstrating these theories. I think this is ridicu-FUCKIN"-lous of course, but the only proof otherwise relates to carbon-dating, and the evolution theory, which both have had their validity tainted in the past. You can check it out on the Internet if you's like, I'm not elaborating, it's been done though trust me. They've even used Einstein's theory of Relativity to prove the existence of God, though Einstein himself didn't believe in God, he grudgingly admitted that it added up right. WWW.REASONS.ORG if don't believe me.
"But all of religions claims and statements are based on the book," was the only retort I would receive, "it's just a book. Scientists have ways of testing and proving their theories," (to this I couldn't help but think that that is all they are, theories, claims-statements and so on,) And said that people only put relevance behind scientific theorems because of this proof that they believe to be so evident to them. Now, I know basically dick all about religion or science for that matter, but I do know that I've read theories that were contested with old or new theories that contradicted them. But we just accept them for fact because of the computers and microscopes and WHOOPDEEDOO as if I give a shit whether you claim God decreed it, or some quantum physicist. It's all just theories, subject to change and upgrade without notice, and all complaints can be lodged firmly up our assholes.
They constantly change their minds about what food is good for us, or in what way it is, and whether this or that will give or cure cancer. Well, fuck 'em their just getting cocky from all this twenty-first century head-patting, and god-job keep up the work-stuff.
For this I got the claim that you can only argue for one or the other, which I contested stating that you can argue anything, which would be why I take on the only real opponent of my favourite whipping boy. At this point the conversation got strange by which statements were made proclaiming that you could claim that bear shit was blue if you'd ever seen blue bear shit, and, now that I think about it, it would have been much funnier to talk about bear shit, or any shit for that matter, than what I just spouted out.
Hang on, I need a cigarette.
Oh yeah, the dick-sucking fellow also said he didn't see why I thought it was "fagish" to ask to be saved by God. Now, I don't really remember making this statement, but if I offended you or your partner's feelings, Dan, then I humbly apologize. (BOOYAHH!!) Chalk one up for our side (by which I mean my side, and not the hetero side, don't want any misconceptions there.) Dave wanted me to say that he likes Dan, and doesn't share my opinions of him. And, if any of you disagree with me in any way like these people did, then you can go to hell for all I care. I'm sure your opinions are valid and substantiated and so on and so forth but the fact is I probably wont give a shit either way, whether you're right or not. I don't really care enough anymore than just to argue for the sake of it.